Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:35
From: Steve Quayle
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:45 AM
To: John Rolls
Subject: Fwd: ANOTHER VETERAN RAIDED AND HIS FIREARMS CONFISCATED–MUST APPEAR BEFORE JUDGE FOR MENTAL EVALUATION/ALERT
To: John Rolls
Subject: Fwd: ANOTHER VETERAN RAIDED AND HIS FIREARMS CONFISCATED–MUST APPEAR BEFORE JUDGE FOR MENTAL EVALUATION/ALERT
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From: Steve Quayle
Date: August 22, 2012 10:44:39 PM MDT
To: Darrell
Subject: ANOTHER VETERAN RAIDED AND HIS FIREARMS CONFISCATED–MUST APPEAR BEFORE JUDGE FOR MENTAL EVALUATION/ALERT
Steve, please call me at your earliest convenience. I have some
breaking information regarding an Army combat veteran (and Christian) in
Ohio who was just raided this evening for the same reasons Brandon Raub
was arrested. There were no criminal charges, no suspicions of criminal
activity charge, and he was notarrested but all of his firearms
were confiscated and he has been given a notice to appear before a
judge. He is a Purple Heart recipient, no criminal background, no issues
with prior VA psych evals. I just got off the phone with him and would
like to pass along all of the information (and there is quite a bit) so
others can be made aware of what is happening.
At 18:40 EST on 22/Aug/2012, I received a call from a very close
friend of mine in west central Ohio, claiming he had just had all
firearms confiscated. At first I thought he was joking, as we often do,
so I made some sarcastic remarks, but he continued explaining what he
had gone through. I stopped him and asked if he was being serious or
just pulling my leg. He assured me he was being serious. I’ll provide
you with the details as best I can- he conveyed all of this information
to me during our second phone conversation after I had returned home at
approximately 20:30 EST.
A search warrant was executed by Miami County Ohio Sheriff’s
deputies at approximately 1730 EST at the home of my friend, at the
exact time he was returning home from work. The minute he got in the
back door from the garage, there was a knock at the front door, and a
cruiser pulled up directly behind his truck (which he could see from
inside the house.) There were seven Sheriff’s deputies in total, and the
warrant they produced gave them the ability to find, secure, and obtain
any deadly weapons. The reason stated on the warrant was for the
“safety of the defendant (my friend,) and the general public.” The order
was signed by a local judge around noon on 21/Aug/2012.
My friend was able to read off parts of the warrant to me, and I transcribed them as best I could:
“…Defendant shall not possess, use, carry, or obtain any deadly
weapon and shall turn over all deadly weapons in defendant’s possession
to the law enforcement agency that serves this order. Any law
enforcement agency is authorized to take possession of deadly weapons
pursuant to this paragraph and hold them in protective custody until
further court order…”
NCIC[06]
“…if defendant is in possession of deadly weapons, defendant is
guilty of violating Ohio revised code 2923.13(5). Whoever violates this
section is guilty of having weapons while under disability, a felony of
the third degree…”
Here’s the revised code the warrant referred to:
“2923.13 Having weapons while under disability.
(5) The person is under adjudication of mental incompetence, has
been adjudicated as a mental defective, has been committed to a mental
institution, has been found by a court to be a mentally ill person
subject to hospitalization by court order, or is an involuntary patient
other than one who is a patient only for purposes of observation. As
used in this division, “mentally ill person subject to hospitalization
by court order” and “patient” have the same meanings as in section
5122.01 of the Revised Code.”
The deputies confiscated one .45 caliber pistol, one .380 caliber
pistol, a 12 gauge shotgun, two AR-15 rifles, and a stripped AR-15 lower
receiver. My friend was able to see what the deputy/detective wrote on
the evidence list regarding the firearm descriptions. The shotgun was
listed as a “hunting shotgun,” the pistols were listed by their caliber,
and the two ARs were listed as “tactical assault rifles.” What
was even more strange is the detective then listed all the accessories
on the ARs, including red dot sights, laser sights, foregrips, 30 round
magazines, etc. It should also be stated one of those ARs was his
fiancée’s, and the deputies claimed it was shared ownership and
therefore had to be confiscated. A hunting knife was also confiscated.
No magazines or ammunition were confiscated.
In addition to the confiscations, the deputies attempted to question
my friend and his fiancée. I didn’t get specific details on the
questions asked. They refused to answer any questions without an
attorney present. When my friend stated, “This is bullshit,” one of the
deputy detectives remarked, “Look man, I’m just doing my job.”
The icing on the police-state-cake was a notice to appear before a
judge for “an evaluation of mental competency.” The judge will decide if
he has to see a state psych. Keep in mind, too, if during the time
between now and the judge’s decision, another search warrant could be
executed. If they find any “deadly weapons” in his house, he’ll be
charged with a FELONY and arrested. Ohio revised code is extremely vague
on the definition of a “deadly weapon,” maybe intentionally so. Like
Brandon Raub, there were no criminal charges, no suspicions of criminal
activity. Unlike Brandon Raub’s case, however, the state of Ohio won’t
allow law enforcement to involuntarily commit a person unless there is
an immediate need to do so, such as holding a gun to their head or
another person’s head. Ohio law requires a judge to make the decision on
having a person evaluated for mental illness. Of course, you’re then
evaluated by a state-appointed psych, and that isn’t exactly going to
play out in your favor. Had my friend lived in Virginia, he may be
sitting in a metal hospital (prison) right now. Or worse.
Steve- this man is an Army combat veteran, a Purple Heart recipient,
a Christian working for a Christian company, his father is a pastor and
a police officer, he has no criminal record aside from a speeding
ticket many years ago, and no psychiatric problems, no PTSD, etc. He’s
not on any medication. He and his fiancée have three children, and their
wedding is in 30 days. Heck, he even quit smoking earlier this year
until this assault on his freedom happened. He is an upstanding person
with strong values and a good heart. This should not be happening, and
yet it is. We know why he was raided, but we don’t know why he was
raided, if you know what I mean. There is no indication of anybody
filing a complaint against him, and no indication of who asked for the
judge’s signature or why.
My friend does have a lawyer (after shelling out $2500…Thank God he
and his fiancée have good jobs and live responsibly so they could have
money saved up for an emergency. Of course, that money was
earmarked for prep items like food, clothing for their kids, etc.) The
lawyer will be filing motions tomorrow. I told him to keep on his lawyer
and to be extremely aggressive with discovery- find out how far up
these orders came from, because I can assure this wasn’t a local
operation. He has only lived in the county for five weeks!
When I hung up with my friend at around 21:30, I told him to be safe and that we’d be praying for him.
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